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Safe installation in Bordeaux

A safe does not hang in mid-air: it holds in a wall or in a floor. In Bordeaux, though, a wall may be limestone rubble several tens of centimetres thick, a plaster partition put up when a flat was divided into studios, or a concrete wall in a new development. It is that assessment, not the product datasheet, that governs the choice of model.

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One Bordeaux wall in two is not what it looks like

In an échoppe or an older building, the façade walls and cross walls are stone: generous thickness, considerable mass, first-rate anchorage for a built-in safe. The trap lies elsewhere. Many large flats in the centre have been subdivided over the decades, and the partitions created at the time are lightweight — plaster, hollow brick, stud framing — sometimes impossible to tell apart under the render. Checking beforehand avoids cutting a recess into a wall that will never take the load expected of it.

The floor counts as much as the wall. In older buildings, the upper storeys rest on timber joists: a heavy safe is installed there taking account of the span, the direction of the joists and how close a load-bearing wall is. On the ground floor of an échoppe, by contrast, you are working on a slab and the constraint disappears. That leaves getting it there, because an old staircase turns tightly and a safe does not come apart: this point is settled before ordering, not on the day of installation.

Co-ownership, damp, discretion: three local questions

First point, legal. In a co-owned building, load-bearing walls form part of the shared structure: setting a safe into a stone cross wall therefore requires the agreement of the co-owned building, and not simply a decision by the owner of the flat. The request goes through the syndic and may need to be put to a general meeting. When that route is too slow or too uncertain, a free-standing safe bolted to the floor with fixings suited to the substrate offers a solution that involves only your own home.

Second point, damp. The cellars of buildings near the quays, the vaulted basements of the centre and the former chais kept at the back of échoppes are cool and damp: they suit paper, photographs and digital media badly. Third point, discretion. For a business in the city centre, where the stockroom is often upstairs and space is tight, the location has to stay out of sight of customers and be known only to the staff authorised to use it.

How does this service work?

Techniques, typical situations, standards and things to watch out for: it is all on our safes page. This page focuses on what the service involves in Bordeaux.

FAQ — safes in Bordeaux

I live on the third floor of an older building: will the floor take a safe?

Often yes, provided the location is well chosen. On a timber joisted floor, the load is carried all the better for being close to a load-bearing wall and spread over several joists rather than concentrated in the middle of a span. The weight given by the manufacturer, the dimensions of the base and the layout of the room are looked at together. For a heavy load, the opinion of a building professional is needed before installation.

Can I set a safe into the stone wall of my flat?

If the wall is load-bearing and you are in a co-owned building, the decision is not yours alone: load-bearing walls are shared structure and the agreement of the co-owned building is required. In a detached house, in Caudéran as much as in an échoppe in an outer neighbourhood, the question comes down to the nature of the wall, its thickness and cutting the recess cleanly. In both cases, the survey always comes before the drilling.

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